Fets

You are on the left tape line and you can't move because an OpFor has a great position at your 12 O'Clock. You can't even identify where he is exactly but every time you pop your head out he shoots it off almost.

You have teammates with you, they are on your 3 O'Clock and out of the danger zone from this OpFor. They can't flank the enemy directly because his left flank is well protected by thick vegetation that would be impossible to sneak through.

Across the field to your 3 O'Clock the rest of your team (main force) is moving up seeking to engage the other team. They are at least 200-300 yards ahead of your position (on your right) to the point where you are barely a part of the game anymore.

What do you do to rejoin the action? What is your next move?

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tacsnipa

i would have to suppress him. and slowly fall back. or radio in to my team to come from behind him cut him and his squad off. I would have to keep them occupied.

JDobbs

Depends on the game/scenario. If they are a defense only (with us as the attacking squad), then I'd fall back with my teamates at my direct 3 making sure that single opfor stays put. Circle around quickly to the opfor's left where all that thick vegetation is. Hey, if we can't get to him through it then he can't get to us either. Obviously one of us would keep an eye on our six/that general area to make sure the guy doesn't try to backdoor us when we get by him. For all we know we can get a good shot off on that opfor once we get past that thick vegetation. Otherwise, attack the opposite flank of the final objective with the rest of your team, who will have already gotten there. They will appreciate the reinforcements.

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Fets

How would you suppress him if you can't even identify his position? How can you expect the rest of your team to break off their movement to come and rescue you from one OpFor?

I have input on this but I want to hear what others have to say first. This is one of the key points I was trying to get at, thanks.

We should always be doing this. I know that you know that, just for everyone else's sake.

Good thought.

Again, this gets at the heart of the scenario, input later.

You can't move to your left because you are on the tape line.

I can't say "try to take the other guy out" is a sound strategy because we are always trying to do that. What we want to discuss is how you achieve that goal.

He knows where it is coming from - he is firing on your position from a concealed position and you are unable to identify his exact location (this was in the scenario).

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Please don't take feedback negatively. Keep the responses coming.

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tacsnipa

just shoot in the area he you think he is to supress him odds are he'll duck. or pop some smoke if it is allowed and fall back to a better position

Fets

I can tell you from experience this doesn't work. I know being on the receiving end I can always tell when the OpFor knows my location and when they are just spraying in my direction. If your opponent is worth his salt (which the one described in this scenario was) he will know that you have no idea where he is.

How often do you carry smoke grenades? I have never seen you use them in a game Tacsnipa.

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koolaid

OK here is what I would do....I would stay put popping up from time to time to keep the opfor's attention. While I had the other team members with me advance past the opfor far enough to get past the thick stuff in an attempt to back door him. The whole time staying where I am to keep him from getting away and getting the back door of the rest of the team on the other side of the field. Once the opfor has been ellimanated then the team members with me could and I could advance for a flank on the rest of the opfor.

Now this all is based on the opfor at my 12:00 being the only opfor on our side of the field or a limited few there. In which case hopefully the few with me are at the top of their game and able to get quick kills to prevent our move from getting to the rest of the opfor.

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tacsnipa

Well koolaid just solved the mystery i would do what he said. I dont play rifleman much so i was just giving my basic perspective on it. No I dont carry smoke sometimes i wish i had it on me. I amumed that it was a narrow firing lane and he was in front of you. so there isnt much else to aim at. But after seeing the correct way I would have been taken out.

P.S. I like the way you made this Fets. How there is really only one good awnser. whereas the others have had multiple anwsers. More tricky and really lets you second guess yourself. I learned from this and i think others have as well.

Fets

I do believe Koolaid's answer is the best solution to the problem. This scenario was taken from a real live event we found ourselve's in last Sunday. We did exactly what Koolaid's solution suggested (Koolaid was not with us, it was Phiberoptix Gibby and myself).

In the end our scenario ended by me shooting the OpFor in the back. It was absolutely perfect execution.

The one key take away from this quiz is that you never abandon that tape line position. You can't lose perspective on where that OpFor is. Even though we couldn't see exactly where he was we had an idea and he wasn't moving because we were still in his way (one of us).

I know several suggestions included falling back but I feel that is not at all the right response. You are just opening your entire team up to the possibility of that guy back dooring you at some point.

So make sure if you engage the enemy you hold him where he is until your team can flank him. Never fall back to re-engage if you have teammates working with you.

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RedMonkey

I would use a tactic I've seen Fets do from time to time... throw a stick away from your location to draw fire away from you. Sure, it never works, but it's funny as hell to watch when you are reffing... lol. A guy just sitting in the woods throwing sticks.

RedMonkey

And now a serious comment... I too agree with koolaid and Fets. I've been part of a similar situation in practices. The key that got us out of the situation is communication via radio with as much information as the bogged down player could provide, and then the experience of the person doing the end around to be able to fill in the blanks not provided by the communication to react appropriately in the situation. It is very effective, and there is no ground lost in the process.