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Old November 23rd, 2007   #1
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Fets tactics quiz: 5

You are tasked to defend a flag. The other team is of an equal size to yours, and you are put in charge of defense for the team you are on.

Assume there are no limitations on where you can spread your defenses out to (don't have to remain near the base). The position you are defending contains your flag but no other structures or buildings.

To the rear is 2 foot high grass with very little cover for the approach to your flag (west of the flag). To the North is very thick vegetation that would be difficult for OpFor to move through without making noise. The east is a mix of trees and undergrowth and the South is similar but elevated terrain with the change in elevation starting about 100 feet from the flag and rising 20 feet.

The OpFor's initial position is to your North East. There is no flag for you to acquire, your only mission is the defense of your flag.

Assume 10 man teams.
No smoke or paint grenades are in play.
You have one player with a ghillie suit

> What strategy do you use to defend your flag?
> Where do you focus your 'troops'?
> Where do you place your ghillie player?
> As the defense commander where do you position yourself?
> What other things are you concerned with?
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Re: Fets tactics quiz: 5

Fets, you are going to think that I am joking, but not really so.

What is the season?

What time of day is it?

Where is the sun...which direction?

How long do you have to hold out (time frame)?

Is it elimination or will there be respawns?

Does the Ghillie suit match most of the surroundings?

Also, please clarify this, is the "rear" you mention with the two-foot tall grass, is that the south? And you only mentioned the lack of cover from that direction, is that correct? Then I am to assume there is cover from the other directions (i.e. fallen trees, large stumps maybe boulders, etc.), is that correct?

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Re: Fets tactics quiz: 5

If I understand everything correctly:
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The OpFor's initial position is to your North East. There is no flag for you to acquire, your only mission is the defense of your flag.
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What strategy do you use to defend your flag?
Defense
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Where do you focus your 'troops'?
Where do you place your ghillie player?
1)I'd put the ghillied sniper(1) in the North in the heavy vegetation aimed at the flag
2)A saber in the northwest(2) to cover the sniper
3)Two sabers prone in the northwest (3&4) in the tallgrass
and one saber prone in the southwest(5) in the tallgrass creating a crossfire over the flag
4)Four sabers scattered in the South on the hill ready to run for the flag(6,7,8,9) but in cover
5)One saber/scout in the southeast amongst the trees
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As the defense commander where do you position yourself?
I'd be the southwest tallgrass saber
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What other things are you concerned with?
Communication is vital. The Scout's main objective is to stay alive and report the position(s) of the opfor. If they send the strong side south the scout can fall back to the 4 man group to repel from the high ground. If they go North (unlikely, but...) then I'd have the sniper pull back towards the flag along with his second and pull up the 4 on the hill. If the Opfor run southwest then I'd have the team maintain position, have the sniper make the opening shot then ambush with the four on the hill followed by the tallgrass crossfire.

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Re: Fets tactics quiz: 5

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Fets, you are going to think that I am joking, but not really so.

What is the season?

What time of day is it?

Where is the sun...which direction?

How long do you have to hold out (time frame)?

Is it elimination or will there be respawns?

Does the Ghillie suit match most of the surroundings?

Also, please clarify this, is the "rear" you mention with the two-foot tall grass, is that the south? And you only mentioned the lack of cover from that direction, is that correct? Then I am to assume there is cover from the other directions (i.e. fallen trees, large stumps maybe boulders, etc.), is that correct?

thx.
I think I said the "rear" is to the west. The north is thick and east is a mix of trees and undergrowth as is the south.

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To the rear is 2 foot high grass with very little cover for the approach to your flag (west of the flag). To the North is very thick vegetation that would be difficult for OpFor to move through without making noise. The east is a mix of trees and undergrowth and the South is similar but elevated terrain with the change in elevation starting about 100 feet from the flag and rising 20 feet.
Assume the season is Summer and it is 1:00 PM. You are in North East Ohio, so determine where the sun would be.

30 minute game
Elimination style

Ghillie is a good match

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Re: Fets tactics quiz: 5

> What strategy do you use to defend your flag?

Since the game is elimination style, the defense can win by killing off all the opfor as well as defending the flag. I think the attacking team is at a large disadvantage because of this (as opposed to a reinsertion style). My primary strategy would be to focus on eliminating the opfor on route to the flag by catching them in a crossfire with flankers. My secondary strategy obviously being defending the flag itself, or in a worst case scenario having my flank team setup at the opfor's flag capture and wait on their return with our flag...only to be taken out before the capture (hopefully).

> Where do you focus your 'troops'?

I would keep three people watching the flag. I would put Ghillie in the thick vegetation to the north facing the flag. I would have another person setup an ambush in the undergrowth to the east near the flag. As captain I would head south to the elevated ground and keep an eye out over the flag area behind both my ghillie/non-ghillie ambush spots (so as to let them know when someone is coming, how close, if they are in danger of being spotted, etc). This would also enable me to check for movement in the tall grass west (behind) the flag.

That leaves seven guys. I'd send two up further east to setup ambushes in the undergrowth, the remaining five I'd send on a flank attack around to the southeast.

> What other things are you concerned with?

My main concern here would be the ambush locations and whether or not the opfor is going to leave anyone behind near the flag capture point. I would want to make sure the ambush spots near the flag are nice and concealed to prevent my 2 teamates from being spotted by opfor. Ideally the opfor will pass my teamates, with visions of granduer in their mind once spotting the flag, and get popped in the backside (or frontside from me).

The two guys setting up ambushes to the east could be a little less concealed. Ideally I'd like these guys to be able to move or reinforce based upon communications.

I would trust my five attacking teamates to do what they need to do, take out anyone at the flag capture point and move up on the flank of the attacking team. Assuming all goes well the two guys I setup in an ambush spot to the east will be able to move and put the offensive team in a crossfire situation. At that point we would either eliminate the opfor or keep their heads down for the remaining duration. The flag would still be covered by myself and the two others at the flag should their be one or two flankers from the opfor.


Edit: The sun should be right over head, but just slightly to the west. So the defending team would have a little advantage with the sun in the opfor's face....again just slightly. The 5 man flank team would have to be aware of this when backdooring the opfor.

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I would put the sniper in the tall grass. for several reasons:

1) has a good field of fire
2) very good sniper teritorry
3) its behind the flag

*going off of Dobbs map

-send a 1 guy left making alot of noise as a distraction
-send about 6 guys right in a flank
-have sniper and two heavy gunners in the tall grass
 
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Re: Fets tactics quiz: 5

Fets, is this represent your scenario layout?
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...not winning the map drawing contest grrrr....
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Now, if I get a few hours, I plan to animate the tatics if I was in command.
Look at you showing off.... lol. You better be careful or I am going to recruit you for a project I had in mind using animated graphics.
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We need some more responses to this scenario guys.... come on.
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Yeah, I plan to after Christmas time. With these Christmas sales ads, I haven't had much time to sleep not alone develop any multimedia.
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